What Parents Need to Know About Spanking
America's Supernanny, Deborah Tillman, shares her message of what parents need to know about spanking and the behavior they're teaching...
America's Supernanny, Deborah Tillman, shares her message of what parents need to know about spanking and the behavior they're teaching...
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Interesting - the parents I know from other countries (specifically Ghana, Japan, some states in India) not only spank but will even spank stranger's children for discipline - -Is this just an American cultural issue?
I watched the show Friday and had some comments about spanking. There are three primary methods of conditioning. The first is operant conditioning (including reinforcement and punishment - developed by B. F. Skinner), the second is classical conditioning (developed by Ivan Pavlov), and the third is observational conditioning (developed by Albert Bandura). Classical conditioning is typically not very effective when used on humans (very effective on other species within the kingdom animalia, however).
We'll focus on reinforcement and punishment first. Both are broken into two subcategories: positive and negative. Positive reinforcement is when a response is followed by the addition of a reinforcing stimulus (ex: after receiving good grades on his/her report card, the child is given a new video game). Negative reinforcement is when a response is followed by the subtraction of an aversive stimulus (ex: after a child's grades have improved, the child's television privileges are reinstated). Think of positive as adding something good, and negative as subtracting something bad. Positive punishment is when a response is followed by the addition of an aversive stimulus (ex: spanking the child for bad grades). Negative punishment is when a response is followed by the subtraction of a reinforcing stimulus (ex: taking away television privileges for bad grades). Think of positive as adding something bad and negative as subtracting something good. Here's primarily where they differ: reinforcement is used to increase the likelihood that a behavior will be repeated; punishment is used to decrease the likelihood that a behavior will be repeated. The greater the consistency and shortness of delay of reinforcement/punishment, the greater the level of conditioning. Notice "consistency and shortness of delay" is mentioned - severity is not.
The only subcategory to be concerned with is positive punishment. Studies show that positive punishment works best in the beginning because it instills fear (the child is fearful of the pain associated with spanking); however, positive punishment tactics decrease in effectiveness over time. This is partly because the fear usually turns into anger and even hatred. Reinforcement techniques are more sustainable. Let me give you a real life application: governing a child is not much different than governing a country. Look at governments governed by "love." The majority of them throughout history were very successful for a very long time. Now look at the governments governed by "fear." The majority of them were very successful at first, but eventually the citizens revolted (in fact this is how our country came into existence). By spanking your child, you will see desirable and immediate results, but years down the road you will begin to reap what you sow because the child will most likely become more aggressive and antisocial (studies by Elizabeth Gershoff and many others have found there to be a positive correlation between level of spanking as children and level o****gression and antisocial behavior as adolescence/young adults - positive correlation is not a good thing in this instance), and they will be more likely to depart from you. Most parents who spank their children have a hard time seeing this because the side effects don't arise until years down the road. Think about this: if a pellet is presented as soon as a mouse hits a button, then the mouse will begin to associated the button with food. However, if the pellet is presented a day after the mouse hits the button, then the mouse will not come to associate the button with food. The same concept applies to spanking because the side effects arise so long after the spanking and not immediately. One area where reinforcement and punishment contradict is in the area of love and fear. It's hard to love something that you fear. For example, is it possible for you to love a spider if you suffer from arachnophobia? This may be extreme but the point still holds true. This contradiction often leads to the child being confused about their responsibilities. I'll give you a real life example. My mother always conditioned me via reinforcement and negative punishment techniques; my father always conditioned me via positive punishment techniques. Today I am very close with my mother; however, today I don't know wither my father is dead or alive. My father would get me every other weekend (after their divorce) and I recall spending most of the weekend with a headache and nausea because I was so stressed. I was constantly worried if I would do something that would elicit a spanking. This level of stress has detrimental effects on the child as well. In the end, I came to fear my father more than love him.
Now let me venture observational conditioning. When you act, your child sees this and comes to believe it's acceptable behavior. I'm sure all parents at some point have found their child imitating them. Children's brains are primed for imitation. This is how they learn language. No one teaches them to speak, they jus*****ch their parents do it, and they imitate. The same think applies to spanking. When a child sees his parent spanking them, they come to think it is acceptable to hit others. You may say "But my child knows the difference between me spanking them and them hitting someone else." This assumption is not true, however. Here is an example: when a child asks for the first time "What is that?" and you say "It's a dog." Then when the child sees a cat, they may say "Look, a dog!" This is because they know what a dog is, but when they see another four legged furry animal they think it to also be a dog. The same concept applies to spanking. They are unable to reason why there is a difference between you hitting them, and them hitting a kid at school. As a parent, you must understand your child's very limited cognitive ability. Children can understand concrete questions and answers such as "What color is this chair?" - the answer may be "Brown." They cannot understand abstract questions and answers like "What is respect and what does it mean to live respectfully?" Some adult philosophers are still contemplating this question, so how do you expect a child to fully understand it?
Many studies have been conducted on the effects of positive punishment as a conditioning method on children. Some have tried to better understand the child's mind. This is important because if I ask you "What does it mean to be a three year old?" You cannot answer this question objectively. Here is why: though you were once a three year old, you remember nothing from those years. Here's an analogy: let's say you get really drunk at a party one night and a friend teaches you to play poker because you never knew how. The next day, you cannot recall the previous night due to your level of intoxication. My question then is "Do you know how to play poker?" If the knowledge is predicated on the experience, then yes; but if the knowledge is predicated on the memory, then no. What's important to understand is that knowledge is dependent on both the experience and the retention of the experience (memory). So just because you were a three year old once, doesn't mean you know what it means to be a three year old now because you have the experience but not the memory. You can of course imagine what it is like for you to be a three year old, but that's not the question at hand. The question at hand is: what is it for a three year old to be a three year old - a question you cannot answer objectively. So while you may think that your child is learning respect by your methods of positive punishment, I assure you they are not (I explain why in the next paragraph). You may say that your parents spanked you and you turned out ok, but this is more of the exception than the norm. Also you may not actually be as ok as you think. Self-identity is often inaccurate because it is difficult for us to evaluate ourselves objectively.
Now that this metaphysical conundrum has been resolved, I continue with my discussion of the psychology experiments on the effects of spanking children. When a child misbehaves and is spanked, the psychologist would ask the child privately about their thoughts and feelings of the spanking. I assure you not one answered "I now know what it means to be respectful." Common answered included "Mommy doesn't like me anymore" and "I did a bad thing." While the later may be a positive revelation, the former certainly is not. These experiments hold true because it is a three year old commenting on the experience of a three year old, and not an adult commenting on the experience of a three year old. If you decide to try this at home, you must get someone else to question the child and they must not lead the child by saying things such as "Do you feel sad?" but instead leave the questions open for personal expression such as "How do you feel?" In this way, demand characteristics can be eliminated and the integrity of the scientific method upheld. If you don't believe that children have a different and unknowable perspective than adults, let me give you this example: infants in the sensorimotor stage of cognitive development do not posses a quality known as object permanence. If a nine month old is playing with a ball and it rolls under the couch (out of view), they do not go looking for it because they do not understand that it continues to exist even though it cannot be sensed. This is also why infants find "peek-a-boo" so entertaining. The fact that the ball no longer exists may seem absurd to you, but to the child it appears as a necessary truth.
If we accept the premise that hitting someone is not respectable, then isn't if awfully hypocritical of parents how spank to expect respect when they themselves are exhibiting such disrespect? That's no different than a parent telling a child "Do not cuss" only for the parent to then cuss like a sailor. It is best if reinforcement techniques are used from birth. Once the damage of positive punishment has been done, it can be difficult for reinforcement techniques to be effective (but not impossible). Here are some tactics to effectively change a child's behavior without side effects:
*Reinforce an incompatible behavior. For instance, if you're trying to decrease a child's whining, respond to their requests only when they talk in a normal tone of voice.
*Stop reinforcing problem behavior. For instance, if your child is whining and you give in, this simply reinforces whining.
*Reinforce the non-occurrence of problem behavior. For instance, if you're trying to reduce bickering between your children, set an appropriate time limit, and then provide positive reinforcement if they have not bickered during that time interval.
*Remove the opportunity to obtain. For instance, time-out. The time-out begins as soon as the child begins to exhibit undesirable behavior, and ends as soon as the behavior is under control.
*Use induction - a discipline technique that combines parental control with explaining why a behavior is prohibited. Induction enhances the child's ability to reason. This includes:
**The reason for prohibition of behavior (the why behind the what)
**The consequences associated with the behavior.
**The effect of the child's behavior on others and/or themselves.
*Role model
*Use positive and negative reinforcement techniques as primary techniques and negative punishment only if needed, but never positive punishment (spanking).
It's important to not discipline the child upon the debut of a problem behavior because children learn through trial and error. For instance, a child doesn't come out of the womb already knowing how to walk - they learn this through trial and error. Just the same, a child doesn't come out of the womb with a full understanding of ethics. So how can you punish a child if he didn't know the act was wrong? The first time an offense occurs, simply use induction. By disciplining them on the very first occurrence, it deters them from trying got learn via trial and error in the future. Of course, second offenses are grounds for discipline. It's also important to understand that learning takes place over time. Parents often get impatient and resort to positive punishment so they can see immediate results, but the long term benefits outweigh the short term. It's also important to pick your battles because a parent who is too controlling will stifle the child which can lead to lack of trust, autonomy, initiative, attachment, and self-esteem. The primary focus of discipline should always be to effectively condition the child, not to satisfy the parent's ego by exhorting control over an inferior being (this happens more than you'd think). The mark of a superior disciplinary is to implement effective discipline without ever letting the child forget they love them.
There are three primary parenting styles. The first is authoritarian (my father's style) - when the parents are demanding and unresponsive toward their child's needs and desires. This is the worst parenting style and can often end with children becoming moody, irritable, unhappy, fearful, and withdrawn. The second is permissive - where the parents are extremely tolerant and not demanding. They can either be indulgent, where they are more responsive to their child's needs or desires, or indifferent, where they are less responsive to their child's needs or desires. Permissive parenting often leads to immature and impulsive children. The third is authoritative (my mother's style) - where parents set clear standards for their child's behavior and are also responsive to their child's needs and desires. This is the best parenting style and children often end up cheerful, socially competent, energetic, and friendly. Here are some important aspects of a parent:
*Let your child know you love them.
*Listen to your child.
*Work with your child as much as possible as opposed to against them.
*Understand your child's age related cognitive abilities and limitations.
*Don't expect perfection.
There is much more to be said about this issue, but I will end here seeing as all the basics have been covered. Please excuse the lack of flow to this comment; I'm scribbling this comment between my classes.
Research/educational materials on the subject:
Spanking Can Make Children More Aggressive Later
(Tulane University)
Spanking Kids Increases Risk of Sexual Problems
(University of New Hampshire)
Use of Spanking for 3-Year-Old Children and Associated Intimate Partner Aggression or Violence
(American Academy of Pediatrics)
Spanking Children Can Lower IQ
(University of New Hampshire)
Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak
The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson
I wrote this letter for prospanking parents which when polled make up 2/3 of the parenting population. Given the recent media attention on child corporal punishment and child sexual abuse my comments address a concern about the link between the two regarding corporal punishment of children. Because the topic is so socially taboo I've observed to date child development experts, psychotherapists, psychologist, media journalist, politicians, and parents refuse to bring up the subject in the context of spanking of child nudity and sexual exposure. There is no law against a parent forcibly removing their childs clothing, partially or completely and exposing the childs private parts when administering a spanking. Where is the question of how many parents are doing this when they spank? It is a common part of the punishment creating sexual damage to the child and as a culture we remain silent on the issue! I will cite one expert on the sexual abuse of boys that explains this act as sexual abuse. I will also after my letter share one web link to a child abuse web site were I share my story and other's of the same sexual damage from spanking share theres.
I’m sharing my perspective to the professional news media of ABC for your consideration in your future investigations that involve U.S. stories of child abuse, specifically those defined as child sexual abuse, but more specifically to those that pertain to both unintended as well as subconsciously intended infliction of sexual abuse that can occur in the actual act of administering child corporal punishment.
My comments are shared here online because they are not directly in the context of the sexual abuse story published by ABC presently online because it relates only specifically to child sexual abuse by an unrelated male who acts predatorily . Yet, I’m suggesting however a socially systematic problematic form of legal child sexual abuse continues to harm some children but it’s occurring in the unsuspected overlooked context of socially accepted violence found in the private homes and bedrooms of parents practicing corporal punishment of their children.
Many years ago I painfully recalled viewing a 20/20 newsmagazine TV segment on parent al child spanking by broadcaster Hugh Downs. Sad images of parents actually spanking their children on the video were shown. The only reduction of such emotionally disturbing images was the lack of any degree of nudity being forced by the parent upon the child for the punishment. I copied a few key statements from the article found today involving the sex abuse scandal at Penn State by a member of your staff, writer Susan Donaldson James. Such repeated statements are shared again at the end for you to contrast and compare to the experience of child spanking. In recent events there has been frequent news coverage on the topic of child abuse from corporal punishment.
I recently wrote a comment on a local news web site for a news organization in Boston, MA. It initially had two favorable replies reacting to my psychological explanation of a child experiencing a spanking as something new in revelation and acknowledgment. Both commenters said that my sense of sexual abuse from this form of child punishment was more common than many wish to believe and acknowledged it needs more public scrutiny but is rarely spoken about in public settings. Sadly both comments were mysteriously removed or withdrawn.
I believe the topic of child sexual abuse within the context of child corporal punishment needs more hard questioning and discussions as it remains hidden from the collective public scrutiny for the very same reasons and even more so as stated in Ms. Donaldson James news piece. Because of the legal problems associated with investigating this topic no public visual examples will be demonstrated as examples. The proof of sexual transgression and exposure of a child will not be found in a spanking aired on TV coming from some personally taken home video that was hidden as was the case of the Texas Judge! Parents who approve and use corporal punishment along with child welfare advocates often painfully attempt to distinguish by a rather ridged vague description the offending act of criminal child abuse from the legal act of punishing a child with corporal punishment as two acts completely different. The term spanking is deemed morally and legally safe but seems to continue to be highly contrasted from criminal child abuse by mere degrees of forced physical intensity of the punishment blows but with almost always no mention as to the degree of nudity and genital exposure involved in the act of spanking/paddling. This is socially deliberately done so as to suggest that there are no sexual elements to be interpreted by the child as anything sexually violating. If the general public was made more accurately aware of this hidden issue that sexual assault is being experienced by the act of corporal punishment by the child’s own parents the social attitude about child corporal punishment I believe would more quickly invite a rapid social change and spare more children the sexual and emotional scars that are directly the result of child spanking.
My experience when I received therapy for my own damaging disorder from experiencing sexual abuse while receiving a spanking as a child is that even in professional psychotherapy my therapist would agree that those acts which I suffered with posttraumatic stress disorder upon recall were and often are experienced as sexual abuse. But the admission came only in private as she would be too afraid of her professional reputation to make those same statements of belief in public.
I have yet to see a single politician or news journalist who questions the health and wellbeing of children who are specifically spanked by their parents who used forced full or partial nudity and genital exposure of the child when they were being spanked or paddled in a public record. I have also not seen the media or politicians question the appropriateness of the parent’s gender as it relates to the gender of their child who they are forcing into a nude or partially nude state for a spanking. Even in most instances where a parent has no intention of risking sexual abuse the act by its nature of being more intimate especially where outer and inner clothing are removed have the potential to create sexual abuse experiences in their children that are leaving behind sexual mental health issues just as harmful as those of direct contact sexual abuse. As it stands yet today on this question, parents are privileged to be spared moral and legal scrutiny where forced child nudity and genital exposure occur for a spanking by the parental right and obligation of being the primary caregiver of them as infants where the necessity of access to their child’s body is required for hygiene and medical care. Where such intimate access occurs and the child experiences sexual violation regardless of any direct sexual contact the child’s mental and sexual wellbeing are being sacrificed for the moral safety of the parent.
It is understood for explanations of motive that most pedophiles were sexually abused children. Many children are sexual abuse victims without the validity of a legally termed definition of sexual abuse, with their own sexuality being harmed permanently, only to be embraced later in life ignorantly as something unusual within their own sexuality, commonly called a spanking fetish but often professionally viewed as a sexual compulsion or addiction. The parent may or may not be acting out consciously or unconsciously some form of their own damaged sexual self upon their child when spanking them, depending upon the degree of natural taboo that exists between the parent and their child regarding sexuality. The child maybe experiencing the punishment as a sexual assault emotionally no differently than an aggressive direct sexual contact attack. When it comes to seeking newsworthy topics for public debate this particular one holds more unanswered questions for something that is assumed completely well researched and understood. I’ll close with a short excerpt from author Dr. Richard B. Gartner who wrote “Betrayed as Boys” Psychodynamic Treatment of Sexually Abused Men. “Noncontact sexual abuse includes a wide range of behaviors, some more easily documented than others: masturbating or otherwise being sexual in front of a child; exposing genitals to a child for sexual gratification; encouraging a child to be sexual with others; practicing voyeurism; photographing a child for sexual purposes; showing a child pornography or making it available to him; engaging in sexualized talk with a child or confiding to him about sexual issues; ridiculing a child’s sexual development, preferences, or organs; forcing a child to dress in an over revealing manner; stripping oneself and/or a child in order to hit or spank him, or getting sexual pleasure from spanking…..”
{More than 10 percent of all child abuse victims are male and nearly half of them are under the age of 18, according to RAINN. An estimated 93 percent of the victims know their attacker.}
{But David Finkelhor, director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center at the University of New Hampshire, said that the lack of reporting goes beyond the discomfort society feels about sex crimes against boys.}
{Anderson, who is now 52 and spent years in therapy, now runs a support group for male abuse victims in Minneapolis. He agrees there is an uneasiness that men feel about reporting crimes.}
{Our society doesn't see men very easily as victims," he said. "Or if we do, we are ambivalent about helping them."}
{"Why are we so queasy?" Anderson asked. "It's the combined impact of our whole cultural training on sexuality. Some of it is around homophobia, and also about the secret nature of sexuality -- it's behind closed doors and a private matter. There is a voyeur quality to it."
Anderson said even what we call these crimes is inaccurate. "These are acts of violence and not sex," he said.}
Why are parents not discussing or child professionals or the media not asking about the issue of forced clothing removal and a child’s private parts being forcibly exposed in the act of spanking even though it’s a common experience and can be linked to a greater incidence of sadomasochistic sexuality in adults.?
http://www.child-abuse-effects.com/sexual-abuse-under-the...
I'm a young mother and in the past few months have found myself asking this very question, to spank or not too spank? Such a sensitive topic. Of course the spanker-moms are touchy! What mother wants to be accused of prizing herself above her child? Isn't this what the Supernanny says to the mothers who spank? That it is their ego that drives them to do so? I think she paints a picture too black and white. YES a selfish desire can fuel a spanking, but does that exclude the possibility that it could be done with a desire for the child's best? And I felt she portrayed positive parenting as infallible, and haven't we all seen this also used for selfish ends?! The answer cannot be so simplified.
As a young child, I was sent to my room if I was lying, hurt my brothers, etc. After some time passed my dad would come in and ask if I understood what I'd done. I would tell him and then he would spank me. But the part I remember the most clearly is what would follow. He would always hug me and look me in the eye and say, "Do you know that I love you?" I always knew that he did. I knew I was wrong. I understood there was a consequence. But I understood that my dad loved me even when I was bad, which meant so much.
I do not say this to argue spanking as the answer, but to suggest that spanking is not itself the evil. It is unchecked rage, selfish motives, and even laziness that too easily surface when things get irrational with a child. If the intent of discipline is the issue, it is not so easily categorized.
But I hope to teach my son that when he does something harmful to himself or to others, there will be consequences, not because I'm inconvenienced by his disobedience, but because I love him and want the best for him. While I am sure that I will not be perfect as I try to teach him, I trust that as I pursue the beauty of unconditional love of parent to child, the love will translate to him as it did for me.
I agree that spanking is abuse. I know because I spanked my first two boys. I spanked them because I did not know any other way to dicipline and this was what my parents used. When my third son was preteen and my daughter was a toddler I took and early childhood program to work in daycares. It was a life skill course for me. What do you mean children deserve respect...what do you mean toddlers can solve most of their own problems. I learned to separate what was important and when to get involved. I learned not to react..especially when it was about what people though of me as a parent. I did not spank my daughter...I did not use verbal abuse with her either. My first two sons have had all kinds of problems....mostly to do with low self-esteem. My youngest son got the tail end of my learning and thank goodness does not see hitting his children as a way to solve problems. His house is a non violent home. My daughter..who was not allowed to watch violent movies or play video games in our home....does not even have it in her head to use physical abuse as a why to solve problems. She is a honor role student and just finished her BA and is going on to be a teacher. She will know how to give her students the respect and time to help them find their wings...as she has wings that will allow her to reach her dreams. I know they say we can't go back and redo the past..but if there is one thing I wish I could redo it is to bring up my sons in a non violent home. I did not beat my children...but I did hit them on occasion. It was out of frustration. Some one said to me once...If your best friend did something you did not agree with would you hit them? Of course most of us would say no. Then why..why would we physically hurt our children, the ones we say we love the most, in a way we would not treat our best friends. All children just want is to be cared about and needed. I am not proud of the way I treated my sons. I am proud that I was able to change. The hardest part is now....as a grandmother, I have to watch my son's use physical punishment on their own children. It is very hard to watch...and for me to take responsibility for. And..one day...those children will be bigger..and stronger than their parents...then...fear no longer works.
the show about spanking- i agree the blonde woman was a nut!! you never beat your children. that is out of fear or anger. however the other two women were right, a tap on the bum or hand is not wrong and not abuse.
Anderson, Thank you for addressing the Spanking issue. I have a 6 year old son and up untill a year ago was a single mom.I have always tried to take privilages before spanking and even time outs with having to sit on his hands while he had the time out.A phycolagist stated to me that this was a GREAT idea because it teaches SELF CONTROL.......Yes ALOT of us were spanked and YES ALOT of us are GREAT adults but tell tell you child 'I can hit you/ spank you BUT you sont hit nor spank others IS a contradiction'
There are MANY other avenues to take to TEACH or Punish a child rather then hitting,spanking- OF ANY KIND!
Did you ever recieve a spanking Anderson?
I know that spanking isn't right but I dont know how else to discipline.